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Guns for self defense part Two
For my wife, she has a Smith & Wesson Model 340 Airlite which is a 5 shot-.38 special that also accepts .357Mag. It doesn't have an exposed hammer and is made of the Scandium Alloy with titanium cylinder with Hogue grips. It only weighs 12oz. It is a little light in weight for shooting but is good to carry. The hope is you never have to use it. It has a hard trigger pull, so she won't have accidents pulling it from the purse or pocket. It is allot of gun for its weight. Downside, it is hard to get a good aim with the stiff double action without allot of constant practice. But at 10-16 feet away you don't need to aim. We may be getting the Crimson Trace laser grips soon.
She also has the small frame Glock 26 which is 9mm. That is the small frame with 10 shot magazine with finger extender for better grip.
I have a number of pistols and revolvers but usually go for the Sig 229 in .40 S&W caliber with lasermax sights. It is bulky for summer clothes but usually don't carry everywhere, but try to keep it close at hand.
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Yes, with the .357's, the kick is almost equal to the .454 Casull with hot loads. I wouldn't recommend this load to be shot by women (the 5'2"-115lb. kind). The grip is small making it harder for a guy's grip but is really compact and light weight for carry and concealment. The .38's are fine for normal carry. I shoot allot of .357's, so it is nice to have common ammo available.
When we're hiking in the UP or Northern Michigan where black bears hang out and I'm lazy that day and don't take a real pistol with me, I carry my wife's little guy with .357's. And yes, one must always keep their cool to remain on target.
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I've found a new pistol on the market by Taurus. It is a five round revolver that shoots both .410 shotgun shells and .45 LC ammo. It comes in Blued and stainless finishes and has two barrel lengths.(2 1/2" & 6 1/2"-although I've been told Taurus has changed the 2 1/2" length to 4 1/2"
One of the guys at our shop has one and loves it.
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This is another one of my messages that got scrambled. It turned-up at the beginning of this thread. Has anyone bought the Taurus 410/.45LC 5 shot revolver?
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Think I may purchase one today!
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I purchased one (Tracker) last night with the 3" barrel in stainless steel. List price was $583.00 and got it for $426.00. One of the guys at the machine shop had to wait 4 months to get one. He says it is a blast. He has a problem with chipmonks getting into outbuildings and chewing everything up. Says he dusts them easily and they literally disappear. He hasn't shot the .45LC in it yet. Too much fun with the .410. He also shoots clays with it.
It weighs 32 oz. and is about the same size as a standard auto pistol. It has a very long cylinder and has a slightly different shape than a regular revolver. I found that it fits in my Ace shoulder harness that I normally carry my Sig 229 or Ruger P90.
For home defense the big problem with normal pistols and revolvers it they can blow a hole through an inside or outside wall and also hit an unintended target. With a .410 and 7 1/2" shot that is not the case. At close range you can blow the plumbing out of an intruder or tag him anywhere.
You can also alternate rounds using shot shells and .45LC. The 410 loads also are available in buckshot having 3 slugs per shell. (Nasty).
Fit, feel and appearance seems good. The trigger feels a little far forward and low compared to the grip position when pulling in double action, but single action feels ok.
Haven't shot it yet. Will load up with ammo this weekend. The annual Winchester truck load sale is at Frank's Great Outdoors in Linwood, Michigan.
It also has a Red colored Hi-Viz front sight that glows in the dark.
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I'm told recall is about the same as a 45ACP shot from a 1911. Will be able to tell you actual experience early next week.
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It was a busy weekend filled with lawn mowing, power washing and shrub trimming but got a few minutes to test out the 45LC/.410 3" SS barrel Tracker a little.
I shot several rounds of .410 with 7 1/2 shot. A standard 2 1/2 long .410 shell fits in the cylinder. Standard 2 1/2's hold 1/2 Oz. of lead or 175 pellets- .095 diameter.
At 12 yards it left a nice 2 1/2-3 foot circular pattern of pellets about 2- 2 1/2" apart. That would be a definite "ouch" for a home invader. I assume it would pepper through a leather coat or Carhardts judging from the bark it blasted of of a birch tree. Didn't have the opportunity to try shooting at a closer range. They say a typical home invasion shooting is at 3-5 yards away.
If you are shooting 6's, they are .11 diameter and the shell would hold about 112 pellets. 4's are .13 diameter and would hold about 72 of them. You also can get it in "000" buck which is .36 diamter and that holds 3 of them.
Experienced some recoil, but less than a .44 Mag. When shooting the .45LC ammo through it, its recoil is like a .40 S&W or .45ACP.
I only had time for a couple of rounds to be shot in .45 and at 12 yards they touched one another at 6 and 12 o'clock. The two shot group was about 2" to the right. I commonly shoot slightly to the right. Vertically, it was dead on.
The revolver has a fixed rear sight and dovetail front sight for windage adjustment. It has a Hi-Viz front sight.
I need to do more shooting, but love it so far.
I noticed that when extracting the shot shell, it drags excess left over powder debris backward through the cylinder that falls in the counterbore for the .45LC shell. You can't always get a shell back in when reloading it. However, this is not a problem when just shooting .45LC's. Always, carry a bore brush!! The cylinder was still oiled quite heavily. With a dry cylinder bore it may not be a problem. Need to check this out also.
It does have a nice feel to it and has rubber grips, absorbing the .410 kick.
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Gunsmith:
I think the gun selected for self defense has allot to do with the situation:
1. I like my Taurus .410/.45LC combination if you live in an apartment complex, in the city with close neighbors, or if your home has a corridor, etc. and children or guests in bedrooms on the main floor where a traditional pistol round would shoot through the walls. The .410 is a good round for close quarter contact and may or maynot be lethal. You definitely do not need to be that accurate with shot placement for those who do not practice as much as they should. I realize is only has five rounds, but usually you will be lucky to get one round off. Revolvers are allot less complex, again for those not as experienced as they should be.
2. I've never liked the 1911 but realize it is the most widely used weapon of choice. I have a Sig 229 chambered in .40S&W with Lasermax sight for certain night time situations.
3. Also have the S&W .38/.357Mag little guy with hammerless frame. I find that it requires lots of practice to shoot accurately to get the feel finding the double action breaking point.
4. Also have Rugers and Glocks with high capacity magazines in 9 mm for other situations as well as an UZI if you really needs lots of rounds.
5. For protection in the woods from bobcats and blackbears where more distant shooting may be required I opt for my .357mag in S&W with 8 3/8 barrel. This barrel length gives awesome accuracy at distances. I have an older Smith model 27-2 which is lightweight and the best shooter of all my pistols.
6. For protection in the woods from Brown bears/Grizz my Ruger Super Red-Hawk in .454 Casull with 7 1/2" barrel is the ticket. It also make a good deerhunting pistol in areas of lower Michigan where rifles aren't allowed.
My Taurus, Sig 229 and Ruger all fit in one shoulder holster. I have another bigger shoulder holster that accomodates the long barrel S&W and Ruger Super RedHawk. The little guy snubby Smith fits in a pocket or fanny pack.
My theory is, if you have a gun(s), shoot'em often, otherwise you are a danger to yourself and loved ones. You can never be too save when having a loaded gun. Always keep checking: Is it loaded or not!!! Always have several boxes of ammo close at hand.
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